Matt said:...people like DMB and Hildebrand (amongst a number of others) who both identify as pragmatists and want to turn back the linguistic turn...dmb says:Dan Glover posted a quote from Lila's Child a couple weeks ago. It serves as a good example, i think, of the way the MOQ has incorporated the insights of the linguistic turn.
"...Bohr's 'observation' and the MOQ's 'quality event' are the same, but the contexts are different. The difference is rooted in the historic chicken-and-egg controversy over whether matter came first and produces idea, or ideas come first and produce what we know of matter. The MOQ says that Quality comes first, which produces ideas, which produce what we know as matter. The scientific community that has produced Complementarity, almost invariably presumes that matter comes first and produces ideas. However, as if to further the confusion, the idea that matter comes first is a high quality idea! I think Bohr would say that philosophic idealism (i.e. ideas before matter) is a viable philosophy since complementarity allows multiple contradictory views to exist." (Robert Pirsig, LILA'S CHILD) _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get e-mail storage that grows with you. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Storage1_042009 Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
