Marsha said to Krimel: Calling my statements "bitching" and "silly" doesn't 
address the issues I raise.  Bacon is a man who stated that Nature needed to be 
tortured for her to give up her secrets.  Come on...
dmb says:
Yea, come on Krimel. The myth of the mad scientist has been in the popular 
imagination for a couple centuries now. From Frankenstein's monster to Darth 
Vader, the fears inspired by science and technology have taken the shape of 
monsters and villians. Even Kafkaesque nightmares about inhuman bureaucracies 
get at this same fear of faceless, mechanical rationality. Its no use 
pretending you don't know what Marsha is talking about. 
In the case of genetically modified crops, for example, the corporations have 
introduced seeds from which the farmer can not grow the next generation of 
seeds. That way the farmer has to buy new seeds each season. In the interest of 
profit, they've engineered a dead seed. What if this artificial mutation 
spreads to other seed-bearing plants or even all seed-bearing plants. What 
would be left on earth? Not us. The chances are probably very small but with 
consequences like that very small is way too big. 
Its a cultural problem. Its bigger than science. Its about a scientific world 
view, materialism, reductionism and efficiency at the expense of quality. Its 
about being overwhelmed and out of balance. Its about loving power and control 
rather than peace of mind. 
Pretending that Marsha is just making this stuff up won't fly around here. Its 
the problem for which ZAMM is the solution, you big snarky square. She's giving 
you all kinds of clues but you just stick your fingers in your ears and sing 
"La La La". Its a dern shame.


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