Ian,
OMG! Isn't evolution just the institutionalization of time? And
isn't time a static pattern of value that spins off other
patterns? Something is strange with this picture... Time???
It seems too late and too silly to worry about winning arguments, and
maybe I can learn to be content with the wind as my friend, at least
the colors of the wind, and all that dust in the wind is endlessly
fascinating.
Marsha
At 04:14 AM 4/29/2009, you wrote:
I consider that very wise Marsha.
I call your "There are not the resources to chase down all anomalies
and alternative hypotheses"
The "Life's too short" hypothesis, but it doesn't win me any friends
or arguments ;-)
Ian
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:37 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Greetings Ham,
>
> You seem dangerously naive to me because of the ease with which
you overlay
> an idealized science onto a working science. There are not the
resources to
> chase down all anomalies and alternative hypotheses. And the answers
> reached are often guaranteed by the method, questions and instruments used
> for evaluating a theory. How long did it take to correct Newton's physics?
> How many hundreds of years to make that correction? From what I've read
> there were plenty of anomalies along the way. (In my mind, it is better to
> see time and space as static patterns of value, conceptually constructed.
> It is a better perspective.) And I hardly think that science as a tool of
> politics, profit and the military make it an exalted institution. Science
> needs to work better.
>
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
> At 12:51 AM 4/29/2009, you wrote:
>
>> Marsha and Platt --
>>
>>
>> [Platt]:
>>>
>>> The Darwinists are hard pressed to explain hobbits.
>>> The theory is now challenged from within.
>>> Wonders never cease.
>>
>> [Marsha]:
>>>
>>> Intelligent Design is not credible science.
>>> My concern is that science is blindly followed without an
>>> understanding of its danger points, and I am relieved
>>> that it is being challenged. It should be properly
>>> evaluated and monitored by all citizens.
>>
>> Intelligent Design is not Science at all. It is an intellectual
>> perspective of reality based on man's sensibility to symmetry and order.
>> When we say that the universe is intelligently designed, by whose
>> "intelligence" are we judging its design? Human beings are rational
>> creatures who impute their own intelligence to the objective world because
>> of its value (high-quality) to them.
>>
>> The "wonder" is that you don't realize scientific anomalies like the newly
>> discovered hobbit skeletons are constantly being
challenged. The method of
>> Science is: investigate - test - confirm. When you read the
entire article,
>> you see that paleontologists, biologists, and archeologists are
currently in
>> the "testing phase", ruling out possible explanations, such as early
>> migration of a more primitive species, reversion to an ancestral lineage,
>> genetic mutations or pathological disorders, or island
dwarfing. Eventually
>> they will have the evidence they need to confirm a
conclusion. Until then,
>> unlike armchair speculators and journalists, they withhold any official
>> pronouncement.
>>
>> As Stony Brook's anatomist, speaking for the research team, said, their
>> investigation has entered "a period of wait and see. ...Someday people
>> [will ask], why was everyone so puzzled back then - it's plain
to see where
>> the little people of Flores came from." That's the way Science works. If
>> Science depended on the "evaluation and monitoring" of
uninformed citizens,
>> reaching objective conclusions would be about as rare as it is on this
>> forum.
>>
>> --Ham
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