No, Krimel, but I thought you would surely have an example.
At 11:24 AM 5/31/2009, you wrote:
[Marsha]
Is the feedback other than Quality(static and Dynamic)?
[Krimel]
What could that even be?
I have never heard of such a thing.
Do you have an example in mind?
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At 01:21 PM 5/30/2009, you wrote:
>[Marsha]
>Is it that the self (static patterns of value) is a constituent of
>Quality, but too often mistakes itself for the generator of Quality?
>
>[ron]
>I like that Marsha.
>
>[Krimel]
>I like it too except that sometimes the self is a generator of Quality.
>Sure we are mistaken a lot, but every once in a while don't you look at
>something you have done and say, "It is Good."
>
>Ron:
>I agree, positive feedback loop.
>
>[Krimel]
>Just to be nitpicky but without negative feedback to dampen it, a positive
>feedback loop oscillates out of control back into chaos. But it may just be
>that I have more experience with negative feedback. I look at most of stuff
>I have done and say, "It is shit." Maybe it is just the lean schedule but I
>have found a little bit of positive feedback goes a long way.
>
>[Willblake2]
>A positive feedback loop oscillates itself into chaos, or back into chaos.
> This topic seems interesting.
>I was wondering if there was a breaking point, and what causes it. Is it
>possible that chaos is a
>very complex positive loop, or perhaps just a loop iteself? I need to
brush
>up on Chaos theory,
>it's been a while. Like, where is the distinction between chaos and order.
> How does Chaos apply to
>Quality. Sometimes I think that all forms of thought are rooted in
Quality.
>
>[Krimel]
>At least as I understand it, order emerges from chaos. Order is a subset of
>chaos. But a really deep answer to the question is that order is a
>perceptual phenomena. It is the results of our effort to extract meaning
>from experience. We detect patterns or common features of our experience.
By
>comparing immediate impressions with past experience we construct
categories
>for classifying experience. These categories are discrete patterns derived
>from the continuous flow of experience. They are our way of imposing order
>on a dynamic flow. We create a static foreground out of the dynamic
>background. But as you can see by reading these threads a whole lot of
>confusion comes from confusing our categories for the flow from which they
>are derived.
>
>As a side note I think that the result of a positive feedback loop depends
>on what is looping. With a microphone and amplifier, for example, it
depends
>on how robust the electronics of the amplifier are and how well the
speakers
>are built. But regardless of how well they are built, they will eventually
>destroy themselves in a nonlinear fashion.
>
>
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