At 05:30 PM 6/4/2009, you wrote:
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:24 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Greetings John,
>
> I believe Krishnamurti and David Bohm are trying to explain an insight that
> is beyond thoughts and language, Quality perhaps, which, as you know, is
> indivisible, undefinable and unknowable. If your 'judgement' is of the
> conceptual type then it is something other than immediate experience as I
> know it.
Marsha this thing called "judgement" has been niggling at my brain since I
joined this forum. Royce talks about it a lot.
How is judgement related to Quality? Judgement is our apprehension of
Quality? Judgement is the subjective realization of non-subjective Quality?
Quality creates subject and object, so the subject judgement is secondary.
Sigh. So much to ponder, so little time.
I admit my eyes sorta glaze over when someone tries to explain insight using
words about something beyond thought and language. I mean, what IS the
point?
The point is experience without self-ego.
Sure you can call it Quality. You can call it anything and fall
into whatever word trap you prefer. I'll just go ahead and park in my
driveway.
Chopping wood might be nice.
I'll leave you with a quote from a book I just finished that I hope you,
Bohm, Krishnamurti, Pirsig and I would all appreciate:
"Abstract cleverness of mind only separates the thinker from the world of
reality, and that world, the Forest of Real Life, is in a desperate
condition now because of too many who think too much and care too little."
Yes, I could agree if you mean caring with head, heart and hand.
Marsha
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The self is a thought-flow of ever-changing, interrelated and
interconnected, inorganic, biological, social and intellectual,
static patterns of value responding to Dynamic Quality.
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