I wasn't sure how to answer this one Marsha, knife?  or Chainsaw!!!!
knife it is then.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:02 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On <12:24 PM 6/4/2009> you responded to my post, paraphrasing Krishnamurti
> and David Bohm, with "Well they got it backwards then.  Truth is abstract,
> logical, of the word.  Reality is direct sensory experience, of the image."
> And then you sited a book by Jaques Ellul.
>
> What was your point?


Point?  As in score?  I wasn't really thinking along those lines Marsha.
 That book by Ellul changed my thought patterns on Truth vs Reality; he
formulates it exactly opposite the way you did.  I was seeking dialogue and
communication for better understanding.  Dialogue was my point.  Dialogue is
my point.

[Marsh]


> And what is the point of your pinky, toes and brushing your teeth;
> metaphysically speaking, these statements are important why?



I like to think of them as metaphysically grounding my I.  It helps when you
are in such an abstract activity as metaphysical discussion to remain
grounded in real things.  It's just a philosophy of mine.  I notice you
ascribe to the same sort of technique or where does shelled peas and lunch
you mention in the post I first responded on have any long-lasting
metaphysical importance?



> And since the subject of these posts makes "your eyes sorta glaze over",
>  why did you think you could creatively add something of interest to the
> topic?
>

I didn't say the subject makes my eyes glaze.  I said people who wanna think
and talk about reality beyond thought and language make my eyes glaze over.
 Self contradiction always makes my eyes glaze over.  Self contradiction
cloaked in appeal to authority makes my eyes glaze over and my brain see
red.

And I did not "think" I could add anything of interest to our dialogue.  I
was interested and I responded like a flower turning to the sun.  Intrigued,
I write.  If not, I don't

Outside the clouds are gathering and the wind is whipping the trees ... and
it all means SOMething, these metaphysically meaningless snippets of real
life..



> Self to me is the definition below,



And at last, we come to perfect agreement.


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The self is a point along a dynamic continuum, evolving toward Quality by
Choice.
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