> [Ian]
> (1) we ARE "the government".
> 
> [Nick]
> No I am not.  The government is a coercive territorial monopoly.  I want no
> part of that.  I'm for liberty.
> 
> [Arlo]
> Don't use those evil public roads to get around. Make sure you never burn your
> boot on a community sidewalk. Burn all your money and barter crafts you make
> for food. Never call the police, and if your house in on fire, put it out
> yourself (or maybe with the help of some neighbors who may choose to help,
> hopefully one will have bough a private firetruck). I better never see your
> name using any court for any reason. If you sail, it better always only be on
> private lakes. If you run into trouble, don't call the coastguard. Should you
> ever travel out into that big evil world of "not-America", don't ever turn to
> an embassy for help. Should a foreign army want your land, don't expect my tax
> dollars to bail you out with an army and all that evil coercive guvmint
> bullshit. Hell, "private property" is simply what you can 
> personally defend. No
> courts, no police, so what makes it "yours" other than some claim of yours?

Nick:
Well, for one, all those things, again, the free market can provide and does 
provide 
in instances.  Lakes were here before the government that's too easy to figure 
out.  
Meanwhile people freely will do all these things, but you advocate waking them 
up at gunpoint in the morning to make them do the jobs.  What gives?


Arlo: 
> But hey, I'm just an anti-freedom, socialist, commie tyrant who hates liberty,
> who plots with a cabal of vile "acerdimics" in our black-ivory tower of hate,
> slavery and despotism, coming up with more and greater plans to brainwash
> mankind, enslave the masses, all the while conspiring against freedom loving
> dudes like yourself. "I'm for liberty"... Sheesh. The "dialogue" keeps 
> getting dumber and dumber.

Nick:
I am for liberty.  You have not been able to debunk the NAP yet.  I will not 
initiate 
physical coercion.  You have not yet persuaded me to do otherwise.


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