Ian:
> (1) we ARE "the government".
Nick:
No I am not.  The government is a coercive territorial monopoly.  I want no
part of that.  I'm for liberty.

Andre:
And if you are for liberty then 250 million of your fellow countrymen/ women
are so as well. And 'What the Metaphysics of Quality indicates is that the
twentieth-century intellectual faith in man's basic goodness as spontaneous
and natural is disastrously naive. The ideal of a harmonious society ( in
which everyone is able to excercise their liberty) in which everyone
cooperates happily with everyone else for the mutual good of all is
devastating fiction' (Lila, my additions).

Government is a social pattern of value.It ensures, protects and makes
possible. To even suggets that you are not government means you are being
very naive and denying your own existence.

Seems to me you want to skip the social level all together. You, my friend,
want to go back to the laws of the jungle exercising your liberty.
I wonder how far you get. My guess is not very.

Andre
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