[Nick]
Cause I said so.
[Arlo]
But your neighbor says so too. What makes YOUR claim legitimate and
his wrong? How long are you going to dance around revelation, Nick?
It's right there. Get outta the haze and into the light!
[Nick]
But if you come onto my land, since I'm here to show you its my land
then you are stealing.
[Arlo]
But what if you don't notice me? What if you own a lot of land and I
am able to move onto a part of your land and plant a garden and dig a
well. Does that then make that part of your land MINE? What if you
and your family travel abroad for a few months, and I move onto your
land in the meantime and plant a garden and dig a well, does that make it MINE?
Revelation is staring you in the face. Keep going, you'll get there...
[Nick]
Come here and prove to me somebody lived here and had this land I
live on now stolen from them. Do an appropiate investigation. Use
the latest in science. Show the facts.
[Arlo]
It's common knowledge the land belonged to the Lenape tribe. How
convenient that you keep advocating "peace" now that you are in
possession of stolen land.
[Nick]
They moved into some of the locations around here because no other
tribes lived here at that time.
[Arlo]
So you are saying no one owned the land until some white settler
claimed it was "his"? You're very close to making my point, keep
going, revelation is a hair's width away!
[Nick]
Read up on natural rights before you argument against something you
have no idea about.
[Arlo]
Oh I've read up on "natural rights". And plenty of other fiction in
my life. Once I read a book on Leprechauns.
I can see why you refuse to answer my question. It's sad, because if
you did you might actually learn a thing or two. Instead you want to
do the whole "bury my head in the sand" thing. I get it. But its sad.
You were so close, Nick, so very close.
You see, there are NO "natural rights". None. Zip. Zilch. "Rights"
are intellectual patterns. And these come to use from the social
world. That is why animals do not possess "property rights". We do
because we've given them to ourselves.
So, I'll ask again, in the hopes that this last time you'll actually
try to educate yourself.
Do animals have a "natural right" to property? They are part of the
natural world, aren't they? They exist as biological beings just like
we do, don't they? If no, then why do humans but not animals? Again,
since you need a clue, the words "social" and "intellectual" are in
the answer. If yes, then why do you keep stealing land from the
animals, Nick, give it back.
In fact, these two questions, what gives legitimacy to your claim
that the land is yours, and why do humans have "property rights" but
not animals if such rights are "natural", keep you spinning around
the event horizon of revelation. In so many posts you keep teetering
on the edge, but your haze has kept your from seeing the light. If
you really try to answer these, Nick, you may find yourself coming
out of your haze and finding revelation. Keep at it, sooner or later
you'll get it.
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