[Platt] No. The founders and their forebears got it from REVELATION. [Arlo] Not according to Pirsig. I'll stick with him.
"And yet, although Jefferson called this doctrine of social equality "self-evident," it is not at all self-evident. Scientific evidence and the social evidence of history indicate the opposite is self-evident. There is no "self-evidence" in European history that all men are created equal. There's no nation in Europe that doesn't trace its history to a time when it was "self-evident" that all men are created unequal. Jean Jacques Rousseau, who is sometimes given credit for this doctrine, certainly didn't get it from the history of Europe or Asia or Africa. He got it from the impact of the New World upon Europe and from contemplation of one particular kind of individual who lived in the New World, the person he called the "Noble Savage." "(Pirsig) He got it from CONTEMPLATION. Maybe you should try to understand that Pirsig guy someday. [Platt] Gee, I wonder why I would tend to believe those who founded a nation over a college instructor or some modern SOM intellectual?. [Arlo] You mean Pirsig? Because that's who I quoted. Ron: Arlo did you make that up? cause it dont serve Platts arguement..... ya musta made it up Platt aint neva wrong cause Platt an Pirsig go together like Fred flintstone and Burt Renolds ________________________________ From: Arlo Bensinger <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 3:58:04 PM Subject: Re: [MD] Coerce me? How? Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
