On 9 Jun 2009 at 12:48, Arlo Bensinger wrote:

> "Rights", including "property rights", are not "natural", they are 
> "intellectual". And as intellectual patterns they derive from the 
> culture from whence they came. Socially we craft civil governance in 
> accord with our intellectual patterns, to give them legitimacy and 
> authority. "Rights" derive from man, not the natural world.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, 
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, 
that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. -- That 
to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving 
their just powers from the consent of the governed."

-- Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776
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