[John]
I agree to an extent, and disagree to an extent. For instance,
gravity coerces us downward, but its nothing personal. We can jump
up. We can even fly. We can go to the moon where it's not as strong.
[Arlo]
Well, I think "coercion" is a colorful metaphor, but I don't think
there is any disagreement here on what some have called "habitus", or
a "structuration" in response to Quality.
[John]
To subvert Quality to God is highly immoral.
[Arlo]
Hence my "aggressive cautiousness" at those who would turn Quality
into Qualigod.
[John]
I guess the point of my objection is that you seem to treat trees and
rocks and such objectively, but disparage God as not objectively existing.
[Arlo]
Whoa, whoa, whoooaaa.... when did Arlo ever say anything "exists
objectively"? Its funny how you criticize this for me here, while in
another thread Craig is condemning me for not accepting an objective
"reality". I can't win!!
[John]
The way it seems to me is you assign atheism a higher moral value
than theism, like the former is intellectual and the latter is social.
[Arlo]
Along with the MOQ, I assign a higher moral value to intellectual
patterns over social patterns, yes. Is this where you tell me
"atheism" is a "religion", that "science" is "faith-based"? I'm not
sure I have the gumption to go through that for the umpteenth time.
[John]
One thing I think is that we're closer to agreement than our
antagonism indicates.
[Arlo]
I'd agree. But sometimes nitpicking over small disagreements helps
bring clarity to all.
[John]
I'm off for the weekend to visit my girls, I'll be thinking!
[Arlo]
My daughter started driving last week, I'll be sitting in the corner
rocking in fear!
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