On 4 Dec 2009 at 9:18, John Carl wrote:
> The thing is Platt, we don't seem to pick on the real villians in these
> little "police actions", we don't challenge China in Tibet, we don't attack
> the Russians when they invade an ally, but hey, impoverished villagers that
> don't own any tanks? Fair game. I've always hated bullies.
Good point.. This refusal to pick on the real villains began when Truman
fired MacArthur for wanting to go after the Chinese when they joined the
invading North Korean forces. Appeasement never results in happy
endings, as the people in North Korea toady will surely attest.
> And I don't just feel sorry for the natives in this equation. Many a
> western army has been torn to pieces in them thar hills and the Taliban
> looks forward to our sending more targets to their country so they can feel
> ennobled by death or victory in battle with the great Satan.
>
> At the end of the day, what do we get out of it? What do we tell mothers
> who mourn? Soldiers whose bodies are maimed?
We will get nothing out of it so long as our military is hobbled by their
civilian masters to be community organizers and social workers.
> If this dialogue is going to go forward, you're gonna have to end up
> defending Obama's military acumen. Hmmm... Of course, Obama is, by Andre's
> definition, a "Plattanoid" so maybe that's not so far fetched.
Obozo a "Plattanoid?" Please explain. I think Obozo is not only way out
of his league, but certifiably nuts to send more troops into that region
while at the same time informing the enemy when we will quit fighting.
Platt
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 6:26 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > On the other hand, I'm sick and tired of people vilifying the United
> > States for defending the MOQ's intellectual level (democracy, freedom
> > of the press, of speech, of religion, of assembly, of travel, trial by
> > jury,
> > habeas corpus ) from those who proactively seek to destroy such human
> > rights.
> >
> >
> > On 3 Dec 2009 at 18:20, John Carl wrote:
> >
> > > Well I'll chime in here as well, although it's gonna get rough...
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:52 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 2 Dec 2009 at 20:03, markhsmit wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It is supreme
> > > > > arrogance to tell somebody else how to live. It is such arrogance,
> > > > > that I find pathetic.
> > > >
> > > > Bravo! You've put your finger squarely on the evil of those who think
> > > > they know best what others should do. I never forget that the purpose
> > of
> > > > the Inquisition in which thousands were horribly tortured and burned at
> > > > the stake was to do save their souls from eternal damnation.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Or the napalming of Vietnamese villagers in order to save them from
> > > Communism, or the Indians at wounded knee to save them from their heathen
> > > ways or predator drones sent against afghan villagers to save them from
> > Al
> > > Queda.
> > >
> > > Personally, I'm sick and tired of bombing the shit out of tribal peoples
> > the
> > > world over just because we've got all this ordinance we wanna use. Can
> > > anyone tell me one good reason we are increasing troops to Afghanistan?
> > >
> > > It just really pisses me off. If I paid taxes, I'd quit.
> > >
> > > John the pissed
> > >
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