Heya Platt,
> Good point.. This refusal to pick on the real villains began when Truman > fired MacArthur for wanting to go after the Chinese when they joined the > invading North Korean forces. Appeasement never results in happy > endings, as the people in North Korea toady will surely attest. > > War never results in happy endings either. As much as the North Koreans suffer under totalitarian hegemony, Americans weren't ready to send their war-weary sons to fight and die in those cold mountain passes, then or now. Truman wasn't popular for his decisions, but I think he made good ones. Good decision = doing what is good, whether people like it or not. > We will get nothing out of it so long as our military is hobbled by their > civilian masters to be community organizers and social workers. > I agree somewhat, but mostly not. The military doesn't make very good community organizers or social workers, I admit. I do think when such are employed properly, they have a far more ameliorative and long lasting effect than bombing rocky mountain caves into rubble. But I heard or read somewhere a rather interesting indictment of our military training - how the ego is broken down in boot camp to create willing drones and "company men" and how this process is self-selecting in an all volunteer army to get a certain kind of individual that does not rate high on the scales of intellectual creativity or personal initiative. These used to be aspects of the American character which gave us an edge in battle but which have been lost. Given that conclusion, I'd agree that our military men and women are the least able to do the job of society building or community organizing. > > > If this dialogue is going to go forward, you're gonna have to end up > > defending Obama's military acumen. Hmmm... Of course, Obama is, by > Andre's > > definition, a "Plattanoid" so maybe that's not so far fetched. > > Obozo a "Plattanoid?" Please explain. I think Obozo is not only way out > of his league, but certifiably nuts to send more troops into that region > while at the same time informing the enemy when we will quit fighting. > "Plattanoid" was a term of disparagement offered on this forum for anyone who thought Obama's Nobel Peace prize was a farce. Since Obama himself admitted that he'd done nothing to deserve such recognition, I figure he must be a Plattanoid too. Hey, and kudos to the guy. I mean most politicians will say in a self-effacing manner, "I really don't deserve this." But the way he said it sounded sincere to my ears. Take Care, John > > Platt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 6:26 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On the other hand, I'm sick and tired of people vilifying the United > > > States for defending the MOQ's intellectual level (democracy, freedom > > > of the press, of speech, of religion, of assembly, of travel, trial by > > > jury, > > > habeas corpus ) from those who proactively seek to destroy such human > > > rights. > > > > > > > > > On 3 Dec 2009 at 18:20, John Carl wrote: > > > > > > > Well I'll chime in here as well, although it's gonna get rough... > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:52 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 2 Dec 2009 at 20:03, markhsmit wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > It is supreme > > > > > > arrogance to tell somebody else how to live. It is such > arrogance, > > > > > > that I find pathetic. > > > > > > > > > > Bravo! You've put your finger squarely on the evil of those who > think > > > > > they know best what others should do. I never forget that the > purpose > > > of > > > > > the Inquisition in which thousands were horribly tortured and > burned at > > > > > the stake was to do save their souls from eternal damnation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or the napalming of Vietnamese villagers in order to save them from > > > > Communism, or the Indians at wounded knee to save them from their > heathen > > > > ways or predator drones sent against afghan villagers to save them > from > > > Al > > > > Queda. > > > > > > > > Personally, I'm sick and tired of bombing the shit out of tribal > peoples > > > the > > > > world over just because we've got all this ordinance we wanna use. > Can > > > > anyone tell me one good reason we are increasing troops to > Afghanistan? > > > > > > > > It just really pisses me off. If I paid taxes, I'd quit. > > > > > > > > John the pissed > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
