Bo,

Based on what do you determine an actual Jesus to be the first 
carrier of intellectual values in the midst the socially-steeped 
Jewish culture?  Since Jesus, if he actually existed, never wrote
anything, the accounts of his doctrine differs among the different 
2nd-person and 3rd-person accounts, and the established dogma
was rewritten and made law centuries later.  It is all socially-
constructed story plumped up with a logic that was probably 
misinterpreted out of context from texts written by Plato and Aristotle.  
Do we even have a copy of any text written in Plato's or Aristotle's
own hand?  

Based on what?  Based on what?  Based on what???   Based on
your saying so doesn't make it a viable anything.    

Your Jesus interpretation certainly isn't extracted from the MoQ, so
where is it coming from?  


Marsha






On Dec 28, 2009, at 7:52 AM, [email protected] wrote:

> Hi Marsha
> 
> 28 Dec. u wrote:
> 
>> What is this Jesus pattern you write of?  Do you consider Jesus an
>> intellectual pattern?   If yes, how so?
> 
> I said something about the Christmas season where Jesus plays some 
> role, why I used him in an exasperated tone regarding John. The 
> actual Jesus I regard as the first carrier of intellectual values in the 
> midst  of a social-steeped culture - the Jewish - and as is the social 
> value's  wont he was killed. To be Q exact he was an aggregate of 
> inorganic, biological, social and - as said - budding intellectual patterns 
> of value. OK?
> 
> Bodvar     
> 
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