thanks dan,
i agree man - work, for yourself, is essential. work, for someone else, and its 
second best by a long way.

reminds me of a guy i met travelling through czech republic about 5 years ago - 
vaslav. looked like a aryan god or something - just glowed. saw him walking 
down the street and was like 'jeez that dude is cool' - my girlfriend agreed 
wholeheartedly. 

anyway later we get to meet the guy cos he knows the girls that run our hostel 
and she suggests vaslav as a weed contact.

so we go find vaslav - he is doing carpentry work for a small bar/cafe down the 
road. apparently he is a whizz wizz zee wood.

we get chatting and he says he has a little bit of leaf and gives us some and 
won't accept cash - none at all. we talk more and he reveals he doesn't accept 
cash for anything he does. he works when he needs to and accepts things in 
exchange. he doesn't drink or smoke tobacco, lives in the forest most of the 
time and has a fondness for those special mushrooms. the dude was very unusual 
and vivid.

 my girlfriend and i went back to the hostel, found out what he liked to eat 
from the girls there, and returned with a mega sandwich for him for lunch. he 
was stoked and then gave us another present: a weird looking rock that i 
managed to lose in barcelona when my bag got nicked. this rock was unlike 
anything i had ever seen - orange and black, reminded me of some david gemmel 
books....



--- On Mon, 22/2/10, Dan Glover <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Dan Glover <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [MD] Capitalism: my experience
> To: [email protected]
> Received: Monday, 22 February, 2010, 11:27 AM
> gav, you're always gonna get that
> stupid shit from people... you need
> to work for money cuz its more efficient. the money has
> nothing to do
> with it! a person needs to work to survive, nothing more.
> 
> good for you. i think it's awesome you can do what you're
> doing.
> myself, i've been self employed over three decades now. for
> a few
> years i tried building my businesses by hiring others but i
> find it
> simpler just to work for myself now. i'm happier.
> 
> to me, that's the key... work for oneself... not for the
> money or
> other exchange that comes from the work. just work. it's so
> simple
> it's hard to see why others have such a hard time with it.
> 
> peace,
> 
> dan
> 
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:03 PM, gav <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > the point is....
> > i have spent the last 5 years working and volunteering
> in the field of community development. and progress is very
> slow, because of the exigencies of capitalism: kids to feed
> and house etc. catch-22
> >
> > i opted out. i haven't had a home for nearly a year
> now. i been riding the coattails of providence, travelling,
> camping; it's a challenge sometimes - to have a sanctuary
> would be great. but when it comes down to it - i have no
> dependents and i am able to act solely as my conscience
> dictates. therefore i *choose* to participate as little as
> possible in the capitalist nightmare that the white world
> inflicts on the planet.
> >
> > seems not many folk see the whole 'need money to live'
> thing as immoral, evil....strange because to me IT'S FUCKING
> OBVIOUS.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 22/2/10, [email protected]
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: [email protected]
> <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: [MD]  Capitalism: my experience
> >> To: "moq discuss" <[email protected]>
> >> Received: Monday, 22 February, 2010, 8:32 AM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [ gav]
> >>
> >> >   working for free, or as exchange
> is ...noble. it
> >> builds trust, friendships, community....
> >>
> >> But working for money has its efficiencies. 
> Suppose
> >> everytime you needed food, clothing,
> >>
> >> or medical help, you had to find a farmer, tailor
> or doctor
> >> who needed gardening.
> >> It is more efficient (and gives you more freedom)
> to be
> >> paid in money,
> >> then you can deal with whatever farmer, tailor or
> doctor
> >> that you want to.
> >>
> >> Craig
> >>
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