Hi Lu Tough choice. Myself, I'd hate to lose the summer. I can't imagine any money I made or confacts I created would make up for the time I'd be away from the family. But that's me looking back on my life. I lost a lot of summers.
Happy Birthday! Dan On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Louise Pryor <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Dan and Gav, > > I appreciate what both of you are talking about here. Right now I am > contemplating getting a job (after being a stay at home mom all these years, > with a little free lance graphic design on the side). I go in for an > interview today. A paycheck would be nice. JC and I would both have full > time jobs, able to pay bills, perhaps keep the house... BUT, we have an 8 > year old. I wouldn't be there for him after school. How does one run a > household and work full time? I know there are women who do it, but all I > ever really wanted was be a housewife and mom (yes, we still exist), > regardless of the sacrifice of material goods. > > I like the idea of this job - working at an art gallery and frame shop. It > would be full time, but probably not permanent, just through September. I > would be able to make connections in the (rather large) art community we > have here. On the other hand, I would have to arrange for after school care > for my son every day of the week, no longer be able to car-pool with the > other family who lives as far from town as we do... > > Would I be trading my community for material comfort? Is it worth it? I'm > not really a 9-5 person, more of a scatterbrained flibbertigibbet. But on > the other hand, maybe I need a little more structure enforced on me... and > then comes summer - would I have to arrange full time child care - YUCK... > and our daughters are home in the summer, I wouldn't be able to spend as > much time with them as I always have.. > > I could go on, flip-flopping back and forth all day, but you get the idea > of my dilemma... > > Lu > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Dan Glover <[email protected]> wrote: > >> gav, you're always gonna get that stupid shit from people... you need >> to work for money cuz its more efficient. the money has nothing to do >> with it! a person needs to work to survive, nothing more. >> >> good for you. i think it's awesome you can do what you're doing. >> myself, i've been self employed over three decades now. for a few >> years i tried building my businesses by hiring others but i find it >> simpler just to work for myself now. i'm happier. >> >> to me, that's the key... work for oneself... not for the money or >> other exchange that comes from the work. just work. it's so simple >> it's hard to see why others have such a hard time with it. >> >> peace, >> >> dan >> >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:03 PM, gav <[email protected]> wrote: >> > the point is.... >> > i have spent the last 5 years working and volunteering in the field of >> community development. and progress is very slow, because of the exigencies >> of capitalism: kids to feed and house etc. catch-22 >> > >> > i opted out. i haven't had a home for nearly a year now. i been riding >> the coattails of providence, travelling, camping; it's a challenge sometimes >> - to have a sanctuary would be great. but when it comes down to it - i have >> no dependents and i am able to act solely as my conscience dictates. >> therefore i *choose* to participate as little as possible in the capitalist >> nightmare that the white world inflicts on the planet. >> > >> > seems not many folk see the whole 'need money to live' thing as immoral, >> evil....strange because to me IT'S FUCKING OBVIOUS. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --- On Mon, 22/2/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> >> Subject: [MD] Capitalism: my experience >> >> To: "moq discuss" <[email protected]> >> >> Received: Monday, 22 February, 2010, 8:32 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [ gav] >> >> >> >> > working for free, or as exchange is ...noble. it >> >> builds trust, friendships, community.... >> >> >> >> But working for money has its efficiencies. Suppose >> >> everytime you needed food, clothing, >> >> >> >> or medical help, you had to find a farmer, tailor or doctor >> >> who needed gardening. >> >> It is more efficient (and gives you more freedom) to be >> >> paid in money, >> >> then you can deal with whatever farmer, tailor or doctor >> >> that you want to. >> >> >> >> Craig >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> >> Archives: >> >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> > >> > >> > >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list >> > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> > Archives: >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> > >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
