[Platt] Right. Dave T's view essentially says that mind creates intellectual patterns which is simply a fall out from the old SOM mind/matter division..
[Arlo] Well, intellectual patterns emerge from social patterns, which themselves originate from biological patterns. So "brains" do not create intellectual patterns, no. But brains form the foundation for social patterns, and the "mind" is a social pattern, the result of the biological organism assimilating the collective consciousness of her/his culture. So, yes, from the collective activity of social minds emerges intellect; the "skilled manipulation of abstract symbols with no corresponding reality"(Pirsig), in the same way that social patterns emerge from the collective activity of biological patterns. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
