The only person I can change is myself... BUT, *I* cannot change me all by
myself.

The only way I can change, grow, become better, is by listening to the input
of others, people I like and respect, sure, but also those I don't care for
might also have something useful to add. I can hear it all, and hold on to
that which is good, useful, profitable, and discard that which is not.

It seems that on a metaphysical discussion group, you would find the
majority with this view - openness to discourse. It is threatening to most
folks out in the world, to have their ideology and worldview challenged.
Here, though, it should be a safe place to bring it ALL up. A LOT of people
believe in a god of some sort. To just chuck out any conversation including
allusions to deity or theism is to exclude a lot of interesting discussion.

Just the words "god, deity, theism" seems to cause instant panicked
reactions, a whole lifetime of prejudice is married to those words. But I
assure you that the attachments I have to them differs from yours as much as
I differ from you, but what I also know, that most "atheists" or
"anti-theists" don't seem to (or it isn't apparent from what I have observed
here, anyway), is that if we actually took the time and effort to ask the
pertinent questions, and to really listen to each other, we would find
ourselves closer than we might think, and we would all go away from the
conversation richer.

Lu - the wife of a discouraged man. *sigh*
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