please replace 'ephemeral' with 'ethereal'...i have done that more than once
--- On Sun, 7/3/10, gav <[email protected]> wrote: > From: gav <[email protected]> > Subject: [MD] continental and analytic philosophy > To: [email protected] > Received: Sunday, 7 March, 2010, 9:28 PM > been thinking about the differing > approaches to philosophy that these traditions use...seems v > relevant to what's going on here - think the disputes > arising here illuminate an epistemological divide along > these lines. > > been reading about deleuze and getting a lot out of him: > > '[deleuze] argue that the human subject and its stable > outside world was a fiction produced within the flow of > experience - "the world (continuity and distinction) is an > outright fiction of the imagination"' > > > perfect correlation... > > the word 'fiction' here is key > > the intellect is creative. philosophy, according to > deleuze, creates new concepts, new ways of thinking in > response to the formulation of new problems > > i still think this list, and our general approach to > thought, eschews creativity, fiction, in favour of truth - > the idea of truth. and this situation produces the ironic > evangelisation of philosophy, which in turn projects this > very evangelical stance on to things like religion. classic > jungian shadow stuff > > i like the idea of approaching truth tangentially, > repectfully, modestly...i think nietzsche's quote from the > beginning of beyond good and evil says it well: > > 'Supposing truth is a woman - what then? Are there not > grounds for the suspicion that all philosophers, insofar as > they were dogmatists, have been very inexpert about women? > That the gruesome seriousness, the clumsy obtrusiveness with > which they have usually approached truth so far have been > awkward and very improper methods for winning a woman's > heart?' > > we can only perceive the whole picture with peripheral > vision - if we are always using the analytic knife we just > end up with arguments about definition really...meaning is > always contextual.... > > the continental approach is more akin to producing a > sketch, that through repetition and variation, gains > clarity.... > > i think the years have shown that it is folly to try and > reach some sort of GUT of pirsig's work. the same arguments > are rehashed again and again. > instead i propose a deepening and expanding of his work > into new territory....and the making of fertile > interconnections. > > i agree with emerson on the idea of literature. he said > that once men were able to record truth truly the era of > contrived fiction in literature would give way to the 'true' > fiction of life. > > although they are different modes of thought, art and > philosophy are mutually fecundating. art produces new > percepts and affects; philosophy produces new concepts in > response to these new experiences and in turn furnishes art > with new points of departure. > > the DQ/sq split is primary. > are we too focussed on the secondary level distinctions - > are we forgetting the primary moral value of direct novel > experience? > > perhaps we need to drop truth as an explicit goal, an > object....it is in truth (ha!) as ephemeral as 'god', > another siren leading us onto the rocks of hubris. > > > anwyay just thoughts > gav > > > > > > 'life is difference, the power to think differently, to > become different and to create differences'....but the > thrust of analytic philosophy is often towards the inference > of generalities from particulars... > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
