Ok, ok.

Yes, yes, a good doctor *should* of course see the person as a four level complex being. But that's another line of thought from the original, a bit off-topic to Dan's and my discussion.

But of course you're right. (Can you shut up now, I'm writing a reply to Andy.) :)

        Magnus




On 2010-07-12 10:35, Ian Glendinning wrote:
Hmmm kinda Magnus,

But appreciate I'm not talking about social context though, I'm
talking about the social content of the case. The patient, is a
complex of all four levels of patterns - the doctor examining only the
biology is only doing 25% of their job.

Ian

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Magnus Berg<[email protected]>  wrote:
Ian

On 2010-07-12 10:15, Ian Glendinning wrote:

Magnus,
When you say
" it's impossible to value its biological patterns by valuing its
inorganic patterns "

I agree. But, when you say
"doctors examine biological patterns, and as such social patterns are
simply over their heads."

I have to say - only in simplistic cartoons. Real doctors have
"bedside manners". Medicine is not confined to biology, the social
level is hugely important to medicine too.

Of course you're right, and I bet not even the nerdiest (socially
disconnected) of doctors will miss that Obama is the president, (which was
Dan's original example).

        Magnus
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