DMB, Magnus, All DMB had said .
> > Well, no. I think it's very important to understand that getting rid > > of this idea of correspondence to reality is part of getting rid of > > SOM. I agree with this particular sentence, but if your "medicine" (the many truth explanation) is the solution I doubt, however forget it for now. Magnus replied: > No. They have nothing to do with each other. They have very much to do with each other, but listen you two guys: I have earlier referred to Phaedrus' insight in ZAMM (the campfire speech) about Newton's Theory creating the Gravity Reality. DMB seems not (to wish) to understand what P. says here, namely that great theories create new realities, or at least he interprets theories as intellectual patterns that expands rationality. However, I think P's aim was far greater, translated into moqspeak that the MOQ creates the QUALITY REALITY. How is it Magnus do you have an opinion on this issue? At least Pirsig's QUALITY/MOQ "meta-metaphysics" is a grave violation of Phaedrus' insight, now HE postulates that Quality has been from eternity - like Newton postulated that gravity has always been - but according to Phaedrus gravity was nowhere until Newton, consequently Quality was nowhere until Pirsig and the MOQ IS THE QUALITY REALITY. Anything else than this radical - strong interpretation - will leave the MOQ easy prey to SOM-based criticism. Doe this ring any bells with you Magnus, I'm not able to decipher your texts. Bodvar Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
