It's a bit odd that the negative and ad hominem comments have come
from the SOLsters!
Who'd'a thought?
On 19/07/2010 17:49, Platt Holden wrote:
Hi Marsha,
Me, too. His point is to never quote anyone about anything.
And there goes knowledge down the tube.
More meds anyone?
Platt
.
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:56 AM, MarshaV<[email protected]> wrote:
Point? I figured he forgot to take his meds. Again.
Marsha
On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
Think maybe you've made your point Ron ?
;-)
Ian
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 3:03 PM, X Acto<[email protected]> wrote:
The most damning evidence of all
After Lila rapes Phaedrus, he "see's the light"
"This was the first time he'd been passive like this.
Before it had been his idea, his aggression, his carnal
desires. Now this passivity seemed to open something up.
What he seemed to have seen was that maybe 'he' hadn't
had anything to do with it at all. He tried to hang on to it,
half awake, half asleep."
more affirmation!!!!
the MoRaT is unassailable!!!
----- Original Message ----
From: X Acto<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:51:31 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] the MoRaT
'Is it better to have wisdom or is it better to be attractive to the
ladies?'
That was a question debated by Provengal poets way back in the
thirteenth
century. Sidis opted for wisdom, but it seemed to Phaedrus there ought
to be
some way you could have both."
once again proof Pirsig advocates rape
MoRaT affirmed AGAIN!!!
----- Original Message ----
From: X Acto<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:44:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] the MoRaT
"Just as a farmer raises cows for the sole purpose of devouring them,
this
pattern
grows living human bodies for the sole purpose of devouring them."
more evidence for the MoRaT, the true MoQ
and the most damning evidence that Pirsig indeed affirms
cannabalism and the rape and torture of inferior peoples:
"He also used to wonder if there was a higher farmer that
did the same thing to people, a different kind of organism
that they saw every day and thought of as beneficial, providing
food and shelter and protection from enemies, but an organism
that secretly was raising these people for its own sustenance,
feeding upon them and using their accumulated energy for its
own independent purposes. Later he saw there was"
Once again the MoRaT is confirmed!!!
the true MoQ
This unassailable position, that devours all platypus,- burp!
----- Original Message ----
From: X Acto<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:26:48 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] the MoRaT
More evidence for the MoRaT interpretation
where Pirsig justifies cannibalism.
"From a Metaphysics of Quality's point of view this devouring of human
bodies is
a moral activity"
The MoRaT is affirmed again!!
----- Original Message ----
From: X Acto<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:06:45 AM
Subject: [MD] the MoRaT
And since it seems we can say anything we want to
I want to introduce MoRaT
The metaphysics of rape and torture
Pirsig clearly supports this in my interpretation
that rape and torture are morally superior.
"
"Now Phaedrus felt it all around him - the speed, the height, the crowds
and
their tension.
All the early strangeness was gone now. He was in it.
He remembered that its great symbol used to be the ticker tape, ticking
out
unpredictable
fortunes rising and falling every second, a great symbol of luck. Luck.
When E.
B. White
wrote, 'If you want to live in New York you should be willing to be
lucky,' he
meant not just
'lucky' but willing to be lucky - that is, Dynamic. If you cling to
some set
static pattern,
when opportunity comes you won't take it. You have to hang loose, and
when the
time
comes to be lucky, then be lucky: that's Dynamic.
clearly pirsig means "ass rape" when he uses the term "lucky"
but he will not admit it. Pirsig states that we must seize the
opportunity to
rape
and torture at every opportunity.
This is the real MoQ
The one Pirsig meant
it is so obviouse
the rest of you morons refuse to discuss the
one true MoQ, the MoRaT interpetation.
-Ro
----- Original Message ----
From: X Acto<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 8:50:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] inorganic patterns& thinking
Since the theory is "nothing is real"
test that theory by standing in traffic
or jumping off a building.
see what happens
please
----- Original Message ----
From: Magnus Berg<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 7:24:25 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] inorganic patterns& thinking
On 2010-07-19 11:17, MarshaV wrote:
Sight at its very least is not about identified objects, only form and
color. But one can experience sight sans even form and color too.
It is ALL conceived. It's useful and I wouldn't throw away any but the
arrogance of thinking the "real" has been realized.
Arrogance is there in SOM, yes, because in SOM, there's no other
relationship
between the perceived object in your head and the object observed.
But in MoQ, we know that there *is* a direct dependency from our
internal image
of the object, to the reality of the object via the levels. I'm not
saying that
your brain is supported by *that* stone, but I'm saying that your brain
is
supported by inorganic patterns just *like* a stone.
So, in SOM, ALL is conceived. But in MoQ, where we have the level
dependency and
know that our internal "minds" are supported by inorganic patterns, we
can know
that there are inorganic patterns. From there, I don't think it's
arrogant
anymore to give the stone a status of real.
Magnus
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