Hi Horse, When in Rome . . .
Regards, Platt On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Horse <[email protected]> wrote: > It's a bit odd that the negative and ad hominem comments have come from > the SOLsters! > Who'd'a thought? > > > On 19/07/2010 17:49, Platt Holden wrote: > >> Hi Marsha, >> >> Me, too. His point is to never quote anyone about anything. >> And there goes knowledge down the tube. >> >> More meds anyone? >> >> Platt >> >> >> >> . >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:56 AM, MarshaV<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Point? I figured he forgot to take his meds. Again. >>> >>> Marsha >>> >>> >>> On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote: >>> >>> Think maybe you've made your point Ron ? >>>> ;-) >>>> Ian >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 3:03 PM, X Acto<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The most damning evidence of all >>>>> >>>>> After Lila rapes Phaedrus, he "see's the light" >>>>> >>>>> "This was the first time he'd been passive like this. >>>>> Before it had been his idea, his aggression, his carnal >>>>> desires. Now this passivity seemed to open something up. >>>>> What he seemed to have seen was that maybe 'he' hadn't >>>>> had anything to do with it at all. He tried to hang on to it, >>>>> half awake, half asleep." >>>>> >>>>> more affirmation!!!! >>>>> >>>>> the MoRaT is unassailable!!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>>> From: X Acto<[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:51:31 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [MD] the MoRaT >>>>> >>>>> 'Is it better to have wisdom or is it better to be attractive to the >>>>> >>>> ladies?' >>> >>>> That was a question debated by Provengal poets way back in the >>>>> >>>> thirteenth >>> >>>> century. Sidis opted for wisdom, but it seemed to Phaedrus there ought >>>>> >>>> to be >>> >>>> some way you could have both." >>>>> >>>>> once again proof Pirsig advocates rape >>>>> >>>>> MoRaT affirmed AGAIN!!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>>> From: X Acto<[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:44:26 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [MD] the MoRaT >>>>> >>>>> "Just as a farmer raises cows for the sole purpose of devouring them, >>>>> >>>> this >>> >>>> pattern >>>>> >>>>> grows living human bodies for the sole purpose of devouring them." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> more evidence for the MoRaT, the true MoQ >>>>> >>>>> and the most damning evidence that Pirsig indeed affirms >>>>> cannabalism and the rape and torture of inferior peoples: >>>>> >>>>> "He also used to wonder if there was a higher farmer that >>>>> did the same thing to people, a different kind of organism >>>>> that they saw every day and thought of as beneficial, providing >>>>> food and shelter and protection from enemies, but an organism >>>>> that secretly was raising these people for its own sustenance, >>>>> feeding upon them and using their accumulated energy for its >>>>> own independent purposes. Later he saw there was" >>>>> >>>>> Once again the MoRaT is confirmed!!! >>>>> the true MoQ >>>>> This unassailable position, that devours all platypus,- burp! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>>> From: X Acto<[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:26:48 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [MD] the MoRaT >>>>> >>>>> More evidence for the MoRaT interpretation >>>>> >>>>> where Pirsig justifies cannibalism. >>>>> >>>>> "From a Metaphysics of Quality's point of view this devouring of human >>>>> >>>> bodies is >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> a moral activity" >>>>> >>>>> The MoRaT is affirmed again!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>>> From: X Acto<[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:06:45 AM >>>>> Subject: [MD] the MoRaT >>>>> >>>>> And since it seems we can say anything we want to >>>>> >>>>> I want to introduce MoRaT >>>>> >>>>> The metaphysics of rape and torture >>>>> >>>>> Pirsig clearly supports this in my interpretation >>>>> >>>>> that rape and torture are morally superior. >>>>> >>>>> " >>>>> "Now Phaedrus felt it all around him - the speed, the height, the >>>>> crowds >>>>> >>>> and >>> >>>> their tension. >>>>> >>>>> All the early strangeness was gone now. He was in it. >>>>> He remembered that its great symbol used to be the ticker tape, ticking >>>>> >>>> out >>> >>>> unpredictable >>>>> fortunes rising and falling every second, a great symbol of luck. >>>>> Luck. >>>>> >>>> When E. >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> B. White >>>>> wrote, 'If you want to live in New York you should be willing to be >>>>> >>>> lucky,' he >>> >>>> meant not just >>>>> 'lucky' but willing to be lucky - that is, Dynamic. If you cling to >>>>> >>>> some set >>> >>>> static pattern, >>>>> >>>>> when opportunity comes you won't take it. You have to hang loose, and >>>>> >>>> when the >>> >>>> time >>>>> >>>>> comes to be lucky, then be lucky: that's Dynamic. >>>>> >>>>> clearly pirsig means "ass rape" when he uses the term "lucky" >>>>> >>>>> but he will not admit it. Pirsig states that we must seize the >>>>> >>>> opportunity to >>> >>>> rape >>>>> and torture at every opportunity. >>>>> >>>>> This is the real MoQ >>>>> >>>>> The one Pirsig meant >>>>> it is so obviouse >>>>> >>>>> the rest of you morons refuse to discuss the >>>>> one true MoQ, the MoRaT interpetation. >>>>> >>>>> -Ro >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>>> From: X Acto<[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 8:50:26 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [MD] inorganic patterns& thinking >>>>> >>>>> Since the theory is "nothing is real" >>>>> test that theory by standing in traffic >>>>> or jumping off a building. >>>>> >>>>> see what happens >>>>> >>>>> please >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>>> From: Magnus Berg<[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 7:24:25 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [MD] inorganic patterns& thinking >>>>> >>>>> On 2010-07-19 11:17, MarshaV wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sight at its very least is not about identified objects, only form and >>>>>> color. But one can experience sight sans even form and color too. >>>>>> It is ALL conceived. It's useful and I wouldn't throw away any but >>>>>> the >>>>>> arrogance of thinking the "real" has been realized. >>>>>> >>>>> Arrogance is there in SOM, yes, because in SOM, there's no other >>>>> >>>> relationship >>> >>>> between the perceived object in your head and the object observed. >>>>> >>>>> But in MoQ, we know that there *is* a direct dependency from our >>>>> >>>> internal image >>> >>>> of the object, to the reality of the object via the levels. I'm not >>>>> >>>> saying that >>> >>>> your brain is supported by *that* stone, but I'm saying that your brain >>>>> >>>> is >>> >>>> supported by inorganic patterns just *like* a stone. >>>>> >>>>> So, in SOM, ALL is conceived. But in MoQ, where we have the level >>>>> >>>> dependency and >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> know that our internal "minds" are supported by inorganic patterns, we >>>>> >>>> can know >>> >>>> that there are inorganic patterns. From there, I don't think it's >>>>> >>>> arrogant >>> >>>> anymore to give the stone a status of real. >>>>> >>>>> Magnus >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>> Archives: >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>> Archives: >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>> Archives: >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>> Archives: >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>> Archives: >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>> Archives: >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>> Archives: >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>>> >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> > -- > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > — Frank Zappa > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
