> Marsha: > Just a final note to voice my dislike of oughts, shoulds and the like, even > something like compassion for me should exist by internal combustion, > not someone else's suggestion or commandment. > > [Krimel] > Yeah, I get that. Reminds me of another underrated Christian notion: > revelation. It is like insight, or enlightenment. Truth get "revealed" to > us.
[Marsha] I emptied the Christian teacup long ago. [Krimel] I have noticed your kneejerk reaction which is why I bring it up now and then, of course. I too find much in modern Christianity that is contemptible but I also find a great deal of value. I was talking to one of my devoutly atheistic offspring recently and I mentioned that it was entirely possible for an atheist to be a Christian. After all, if I claim to be a Christian who's to say I am not. Now I might be refused into the fellowship of particular Christians but fuck them, they are not the boss of me. If I claim to be a Kantian or a logical atomist or a wizard or a bard, who is to say I am not whatever I claim to be. In the end, I said, that while I can think of ways and reasons for calling myself a Christian I don't; mostly because I don't want to be associated in any way with the hordes of assholes who do. > [Krimel] > We really don't much use that light or see that revelation, unless > we feel we have some hand in flipping the switch. [Marsha] Flipping the switch, to me, means turning off thought for a bit as in: "While sustaining biological and social patterns Kill all intellectual patterns. Kill them completely And then follow Dynamic Quality And morality will be served" (LILA, Chapter 32) [Krimel] But when the light gets switched back on, as it always does, it is pretty much the same shit in a different light. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
