On Aug 12, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Krimel wrote: > Marsha: > Yes, this is true for the long run, but in the short-run they are valuable. > > Maybe it's the attachment to an expected result at having obtained the > 'object' of desire that is the cause of suffering. > > [Krimel] > But see there you use those words "value" and "excepted". Both are the > causes of suffering. They are sources of pain because in a chaotic world we > always lose what we value and our expectations are frequently violated. > > Lowered expectation is a sure cure for suffering but personally I find > almost no consolation in that. But then I don't find much solace in > submission to a "chaotic" will either. On the other hand I dearly love the > Jew's ironic attitude to all this. You know stuff like this: > > God, I know we are your chosen people, but couldn't you choose somebody else > for a change? > - Shalom Aleichem > > Let me tell you the one thing I have against Moses. He took us forty years > into the desert in order to bring us to the one place in the Middle East > that has no oil! > - Golda Meir > > If the rich could hire the poor to die for them, the poor would make a very > nice living. > - Jewish Proverb > > I'm Jewish. I don't work out. If God had wanted us to bend over, He would > have put diamonds on the floor. > - Joan Rivers > > Not a lot of bull shit about oughts just bemused acceptance of is-ness.
Marsha: Just a final note to voice my dislike of oughts, shoulds and the like, even something like compassion for me should exist by internal combustion, not someone else's suggestion or commandment. ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
