On Aug 12, 2010, at 2:42 PM, Krimel wrote: >> [Krimel] >> Buddhist claim suffering is the result of desire and to eliminate > suffering >> you must eliminate desire. I call that lowering expectation. It isn't just > a >> matter of Ultimate Truth. It can be the pain in your ass. The pain in your >> ass only causes suffering because you desire it to go away. Eliminate that >> desire and you will still have the pain but it will not cause you suffer. > > [Marsha] > Naaa, the idea is to eliminate suffering. I've heard the Dalai Lama speak > of this. Desiring to become enlightened or compassionate are clearly > positive > desires. > > [Krimel] > In the end as I understand Buddhism the desire for enlightenment and > compassion are among the final stumbling blocks on the path to eliminating > desire. They too produce suffering resulting from their lack. >
Marsha: Yes, this is true for the long run, but in the short-run they are valuable. Maybe it's the attachment to an expected result at having obtained the 'object' of desire that is the cause of suffering. ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
