On Aug 12, 2010, at 4:22 PM, Krimel wrote: >> Marsha: >> Just a final note to voice my dislike of oughts, shoulds and the like, > even >> something like compassion for me should exist by internal combustion, >> not someone else's suggestion or commandment. >> >> [Krimel] >> Yeah, I get that. Reminds me of another underrated Christian notion: >> revelation. It is like insight, or enlightenment. Truth get "revealed" to >> us. > > [Marsha] > I emptied the Christian teacup long ago. > > [Krimel] > I have noticed your kneejerk reaction which is why I bring it up now and > then, of course. I too find much in modern Christianity that is contemptible > but I also find a great deal of value. I was talking to one of my devoutly > atheistic offspring recently and I mentioned that it was entirely possible > for an atheist to be a Christian. > > After all, if I claim to be a Christian who's to say I am not. Now I might > be refused into the fellowship of particular Christians but fuck them, they > are not the boss of me. If I claim to be a Kantian or a logical atomist or a > wizard or a bard, who is to say I am not whatever I claim to be. > > In the end, I said, that while I can think of ways and reasons for calling > myself a Christian I don't; mostly because I don't want to be associated in > any way with the hordes of assholes who do. > >> [Krimel] >> We really don't much use that light or see that revelation, unless >> we feel we have some hand in flipping the switch. > > [Marsha] > Flipping the switch, to me, means turning off thought for a bit as in: > > "While sustaining biological and social patterns > Kill all intellectual patterns. > Kill them completely > And then follow Dynamic Quality > And morality will be served" > (LILA, Chapter 32) > > [Krimel] > But when the light gets switched back on, as it always does, it is pretty > much the same shit in a different light.
Marsha: But a different light can make big chances to what is seen and how experience is evaluated. Shit can turn into rich fertilizer. ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
