Marsha: Yes, this is true for the long run, but in the short-run they are valuable.
Maybe it's the attachment to an expected result at having obtained the 'object' of desire that is the cause of suffering. [Krimel] But see there you use those words "value" and "excepted". Both are the causes of suffering. They are sources of pain because in a chaotic world we always lose what we value and our expectations are frequently violated. Lowered expectation is a sure cure for suffering but personally I find almost no consolation in that. But then I don't find much solace in submission to a "chaotic" will either. On the other hand I dearly love the Jew's ironic attitude to all this. You know stuff like this: God, I know we are your chosen people, but couldn't you choose somebody else for a change? - Shalom Aleichem Let me tell you the one thing I have against Moses. He took us forty years into the desert in order to bring us to the one place in the Middle East that has no oil! - Golda Meir If the rich could hire the poor to die for them, the poor would make a very nice living. - Jewish Proverb I'm Jewish. I don't work out. If God had wanted us to bend over, He would have put diamonds on the floor. - Joan Rivers Not a lot of bull shit about oughts just bemused acceptance of is-ness. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
