On Sep 4, 2010, at 8:14 AM, Andre Broersen wrote: > Marsha to Andre: > > Intellectual Static Patterns of Value are reified concepts and the rules for > their rational analysis and manipulation. > > Andre: > This clearly shows your misunderstanding of the MOQ Marsha. The whole 'idea' > of reification is a SOM product. The MOQ opposes SOM, or rather 'rectifies' > SOM, by suggesting that 'patterns of value' are a better tool to grasp our > understanding of (conventional) reality. To wit: no reification but the > ongoing process of valuation.
Marsha: The 'idea' of reification is an intellectual process. The MoQ does not oppose intellectualization, but understands its limitation. > > Marsha: > As far as I know intellectual patterns are as I stated above, and I have seen > no evidence to the contrary. > > Andre: > You have been presented with plenty of evidence Marsha by many here on this > list and notably dmb. But I know your thoughts on his posts...you read them > with your eyes closed. You have done no more than present abstracted reified concepts pointing to abstracted reified concepts pointing to abstracted reified concepts. As if presenting the word 'Tao' and some explanation is demonstrating something. It is not. Nor does presenting quotes from James demonstrate Radical Empiricism. Nor is talk about 'direct experience' direct experience. Personally I like intellectual spov, but I don't confuse them for being something 'real'. > > Marsha: > And surely you wouldn't expect my understanding to change because dmb, Arlo, > Ron, Dan or the Pope think differently. My mind doesn't work like that. > > Andre: > Not for a minute would I expect this from you Marsha. You are the mind trying > to see and understand your mind much like the eye that tries to see itself. > This really is all your own soliloquize. Such opinion/gibberish does not influence me. Marsha ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
