dmb, Not interested in having a discussion with you.
Marsha On Sep 4, 2010, at 2:39 PM, david buchanan wrote: > > Marsha said to dmb: > Not interested in having a discussion with you. > > > dmb says: > > Then why are you talking about radical empiricism in a thread I started to > talk about radical empiricism? > > > > "asshole |ˈasˌhōl| noun vulgar slang. the anus. • an irritating or > contemptible person" > > >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 4, 2010, at 2:08 PM, david buchanan wrote: >> >>> >>> Marsha said to Mary: >>> I wonder what this post is about. It is my understanding that to take an >>> idea, like Radical Empiricism which is a hypothetical construct, and to >>> state that it is concretely demonstrable is a form of reification. Do you >>> think I am wrong? >>> >>> dmb says: >>> >>> Are you wrong? Yes, hopelessly confused. >>> >>> But more to the point, you should get your own thread going, one where >>> words can mean whatever you like. >>> >>> >>> "Reification is a fallacy of ambiguity, when an abstraction is treated as >>> if it were a concrete, real event, or physical entity. In other words, it >>> is the error of treating as a "real thing" something which is not a real >>> thing, but merely an idea. ...Etymology: From Latin res thing + facere to >>> make, reification can be 'translated' as thing-making; the turning of >>> something abstract into a concrete thing or object". >>> >>> If radical empiricism were being reified it would be presented and treated >>> as a thing rather than an idea. As far as I know, nobody has ever treated >>> it as a thing, an event or a physical entity. Do you know of any such >>> treatment? Of course not. Radical empiricism is a very powerful antidote to >>> the reifications that haunt philosophy, particularly the Cartesian dualism >>> known as SOM. >>> >>> >>> "Nothingness. Another fallaciously reifying use of "nothing" is found in >>> this joke: A man walks into a bar. The bartender asks him what he wants. >>> "Nothing," he says. "So why did you come in here?" "Because nothing is >>> better than a cold drink." The fallacy is manifested in the listener's >>> interpretation of the man's answer, as, if the joke were successful, the >>> listener is led to conflate the semantics of the two distinct but >>> interrelated notions of emptiness and nothingness. If interpreted without >>> this natural equivocation, the man's answer literally — if awkwardly, in >>> the context of answering the question — means that he would prefer to drink >>> nothing than to have a cold drink, instead of the commonly understood >>> meaning, "Cold drinks are better than everything"." >>> >>> >>> Nothing is better than discussing philosophical ideas with you because your >>> view makes everything look better. >>> >>> >>> "essentialism |iˈsen sh əˌlizəm| noun Philosophy. a belief that things >>> have a set of characteristics that make them what they are, and that the >>> task of science and philosophy is their discovery and expression; the >>> doctrine that essence is prior to existence." >>> >>> >>> "nothingness |ˈnəθi ng nis| noun. the absence or cessation of life or >>> existence : the fear of the total nothingness of death.• worthlessness; >>> insignificance; unimportance : the nothingness of it all overwhelmed him." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
