Hi Mary,

I wonder what this post is about.  It is my understanding that to take an 
idea, like Radical Empiricism which is a hypothetical construct, and to 
state that it is concretely demonstrable is a form of reification.  Do 
you think I am wrong?  

Marsha  



On Sep 4, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Mary wrote:

>> ... "Justice is blind; the blind cannot read printed laws; therefore, to
> print laws cannot serve justice."
> 
> Justice will never be served for poor Justice if she cannot read the laws of
> justice.  
> 
> Oh, the injustice of it all!
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Marsha said:  Radical Empiricism is a reified concept.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> dmb replies:
>> 
>> It's pretty clear that you do not even understand the meaning of the
>> term "reification", let alone radical empiricism.
>> 
>> "Reification (also known as hypostatisation, concretism, or the fallacy
>> of misplaced concreteness) is a fallacy of ambiguity, when an
>> abstraction (abstract belief or hypothetical construct) is treated as
>> if it were a concrete, real event, or physical entity. In other words,
>> it is the error of treating as a "real thing" something which is not a
>> real thing, but merely an idea. For example: if the phrase "holds
>> another's affection", is taken literally, affection would be reified.
>> Note that reification is generally accepted in literature and other
>> forms of discourse where reified abstractions are understood to be
>> intended metaphorically, but the use of reification in logical
>> arguments is usually regarded as a mistake (fallacy). For example,
>> "Justice is blind; the blind cannot read printed laws; therefore, to
>> print laws cannot serve justice." In rhetoric, it may be sometimes
>> difficult to determine if reification was used correctly or
>> incorrectly.
>> Pathetic fallacy or anthropomorphic fallacy is a subset of reification,
>> where the idea is not only treated as being alive, but as being
>> intelligent and human-like.
>> Etymology: From Latin res thing + facere to make, reification can be
>> 'translated' as thing-making; the turning of something abstract into a
>> concrete thing or object."
>> 
>> If you want to communicate with english-speaking people, you gotta get
>> rid of the belief that it's okay to have your own private definitions.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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