dmb, Not interested in having a discussion with you.
Marsha On Sep 4, 2010, at 2:08 PM, david buchanan wrote: > > Marsha said to Mary: > I wonder what this post is about. It is my understanding that to take an > idea, like Radical Empiricism which is a hypothetical construct, and to state > that it is concretely demonstrable is a form of reification. Do you think I > am wrong? > > dmb says: > > Are you wrong? Yes, hopelessly confused. > > But more to the point, you should get your own thread going, one where words > can mean whatever you like. > > > "Reification is a fallacy of ambiguity, when an abstraction is treated as if > it were a concrete, real event, or physical entity. In other words, it is the > error of treating as a "real thing" something which is not a real thing, but > merely an idea. ...Etymology: From Latin res thing + facere to make, > reification can be 'translated' as thing-making; the turning of something > abstract into a concrete thing or object". > > If radical empiricism were being reified it would be presented and treated as > a thing rather than an idea. As far as I know, nobody has ever treated it as > a thing, an event or a physical entity. Do you know of any such treatment? Of > course not. Radical empiricism is a very powerful antidote to the > reifications that haunt philosophy, particularly the Cartesian dualism known > as SOM. > > > "Nothingness. Another fallaciously reifying use of "nothing" is found in this > joke: A man walks into a bar. The bartender asks him what he wants. > "Nothing," he says. "So why did you come in here?" "Because nothing is better > than a cold drink." The fallacy is manifested in the listener's > interpretation of the man's answer, as, if the joke were successful, the > listener is led to conflate the semantics of the two distinct but > interrelated notions of emptiness and nothingness. If interpreted without > this natural equivocation, the man's answer literally — if awkwardly, in the > context of answering the question — means that he would prefer to drink > nothing than to have a cold drink, instead of the commonly understood > meaning, "Cold drinks are better than everything"." > > > Nothing is better than discussing philosophical ideas with you because your > view makes everything look better. > > > "essentialism |iˈsen sh əˌlizəm| noun Philosophy. a belief that things have > a set of characteristics that make them what they are, and that the task of > science and philosophy is their discovery and expression; the doctrine that > essence is prior to existence." > > > "nothingness |ˈnəθi ng nis| noun. the absence or cessation of life or > existence : the fear of the total nothingness of death.• worthlessness; > insignificance; unimportance : the nothingness of it all overwhelmed him." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
