Marsha said to dmb: Not interested in having a discussion with you.
dmb says: Then why are you talking about radical empiricism in a thread I started to talk about radical empiricism? "asshole |ˈasˌhōl| noun vulgar slang. the anus. • an irritating or contemptible person" > > > Marsha > > > > > On Sep 4, 2010, at 2:08 PM, david buchanan wrote: > > > > > Marsha said to Mary: > > I wonder what this post is about. It is my understanding that to take an > > idea, like Radical Empiricism which is a hypothetical construct, and to > > state that it is concretely demonstrable is a form of reification. Do you > > think I am wrong? > > > > dmb says: > > > > Are you wrong? Yes, hopelessly confused. > > > > But more to the point, you should get your own thread going, one where > > words can mean whatever you like. > > > > > > "Reification is a fallacy of ambiguity, when an abstraction is treated as > > if it were a concrete, real event, or physical entity. In other words, it > > is the error of treating as a "real thing" something which is not a real > > thing, but merely an idea. ...Etymology: From Latin res thing + facere to > > make, reification can be 'translated' as thing-making; the turning of > > something abstract into a concrete thing or object". > > > > If radical empiricism were being reified it would be presented and treated > > as a thing rather than an idea. As far as I know, nobody has ever treated > > it as a thing, an event or a physical entity. Do you know of any such > > treatment? Of course not. Radical empiricism is a very powerful antidote to > > the reifications that haunt philosophy, particularly the Cartesian dualism > > known as SOM. > > > > > > "Nothingness. Another fallaciously reifying use of "nothing" is found in > > this joke: A man walks into a bar. The bartender asks him what he wants. > > "Nothing," he says. "So why did you come in here?" "Because nothing is > > better than a cold drink." The fallacy is manifested in the listener's > > interpretation of the man's answer, as, if the joke were successful, the > > listener is led to conflate the semantics of the two distinct but > > interrelated notions of emptiness and nothingness. If interpreted without > > this natural equivocation, the man's answer literally — if awkwardly, in > > the context of answering the question — means that he would prefer to drink > > nothing than to have a cold drink, instead of the commonly understood > > meaning, "Cold drinks are better than everything"." > > > > > > Nothing is better than discussing philosophical ideas with you because your > > view makes everything look better. > > > > > > "essentialism |iˈsen sh əˌlizəm| noun Philosophy. a belief that things > > have a set of characteristics that make them what they are, and that the > > task of science and philosophy is their discovery and expression; the > > doctrine that essence is prior to existence." > > > > > > "nothingness |ˈnəθi ng nis| noun. the absence or cessation of life or > > existence : the fear of the total nothingness of death.• worthlessness; > > insignificance; unimportance : the nothingness of it all overwhelmed him." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
