Right, there is no serious debate, particularly if the NYTimes says so. My
turn to laugh.

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 4:03 PM, david buchanan <[email protected]>wrote:

>
>
> Platt said to dmb:
>  Excellent use of the Alinsky tactic of demonizing those you disagree with
> by using ridicule in order to avoid serious debate.
>
>
> dmb says:
>
> I'm demonizing my opponents? Look in the mirror, Mister. You've the one
> talking about murderous socialism and then you construed my efforts to
> provide context as a form of deception. And now you're characterizing my
> criticism of your bad "logic" as ridicule, demonization, and as an evasion
> of serious debate.
>
> There is no serious debate to evade. The whole thing is predicated on a
> fiction. As I explained in the propaganda thread, your central premise was
> manufactured by a public relations agency on behalf of Republican
> operatives. The falsity of it is a matter of public record now and so the
> right-wing spin on that New York Times editorial is an attempt to resurrect
> the issue. Even though the editorial explicitly said the so-called "death
> panels" were a fiction used by demagogues, you and the right-wing bloggers
> used that editorial to do exactly that.
>
> This is not demonization. This is a deconstruction of your case. So what if
> I use a little humor to make the point?
>
> You really don't see how absurd it is to accuse someone of trying to "hide"
> something by putting it back in its original context?  If you want to hide
> the original meaning of somebody's statement, you take it out of its
> original context. Everyone knows that putting a statement in context is
> exactly how one would NOT hide the truth. That's why it's funny just to hear
> the phrase, "hide it with context". Don't you want to correct your statement
> or something? Do you think such an irrational accusation will stand if you
> paint me as the bad guy for saying how illogical it is? I don't.
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 15 Sep 2010 at 12:34, david buchanan wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Platt said to dmb:
> > > No matter how you or the leftist editorial writer at the Times want to
> hide it with "context," the fact of government control of life and death
> decisions stands out like a sore thumb.
> > >
> > >
> > > dmb says:
> > > The writer and I are hiding the "fact" with context?
> > >
> > > Hilarious.
> > >
> > > Sounds like Stephan Colbert doing a parody of a right-winger's "logic".
> > >
> > > Hide it with context. That is truly funny.
> >
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