[Craig, previously]
> in SOM, S = Subject & O = Object
> in the MoQ diagram of SODV, S = Subjective & O = Objective.

[Mary]
> this differs how?


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In the same way the MoQ differs from SOM.

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[Mary]
> you cannot have 'subjectivism' without presupposing subjects
> nor 'objectivism' without objects

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Only from an SOM perspective.
>From the MoQ perspective, the presuppositions are reversed:
Objects presuppose objective spovs & Subjects presuppose 
subjective spovs.
If you view the MoQ from an SOM perspective, then you see 
the MoQ as a subset (or special case) of SOM.
But from the MoQ perspective, SOM is subsumed under the MoQ.
The question is: why persist in seeing the MoQ from the SOM 
perspective? (If the answer is: all intellectualization is SOM,
then this is the assumption that must be rejected.)

Craig 



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