Hi Mark,

>From Emptiness arises conventional truths, from Quality arises static 
patterns of value.  I see them as synonyms, and analogies pointing to 
what is beyond concepts. Quality and Emptiness as one and the same.  
To me the Quantum measurement problem, the skeleton in the 
laboratory closet, is pointing its boney finger at Quality/Emptiness.   
Quality/Emptiness can be said to be arising from that which they are 
analogizing.   

Terminology can be a thorny issue.  But the MoQ, as a bridge between 
Western Science and Eastern Wisdom/Insight must consider different 
dictionaries.  For instance, if one thinks about the word 'Quality', it can 
seem 
quite strange.  Yet is it any less "weird" than 'dark space', 'superposition' 
or '
entanglement'?  Not at all!  The concepts behind these words are definitely 
out from the ordinary.  The Eastern concepts should pose no problem.  
It's all very interesting and all worth pondering.  imho.   


Marsha 




On Oct 5, 2010, at 1:16 AM, 118 wrote:

> Perhaps Marsha,
> 
> It just doesn't work for me, though.  I tend to think of Quality as
> Fullness.
> 
> Emptiness as a word does not do the concept of co-dependent arising justice.
> Maybe it is in the translation to English.  However, once redefined through
> personal understanding of what the word is suppose to mean, then I guess it
> is as good a word as any.  Every discipline has its own dictionary.
> 
> Quality may be arising from Emptiness, what do you think?
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:01 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I think it is acceptable within the MoQ to consider Emptiness equivalent to
>> Quaiity...
>> 
>> 
>> Emptiness & Quantum Mechanics  (8 minutes)
>>              by B. Alan Wallace
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://web.me.com/ksnowsb108/B._Alan_Wallace_Podcasts/Podcast/Entries/2009/2/7_Emptiness_%26_Quantum_Mechanics.html
>> 
>> 
>> Bio:  Dr. Wallace, a scholar and practitioner of Buddhism since 1970, has
>> taught Buddhist theory and meditation worldwide since 1976. Having devoted
>> fourteen years to training as a Tibetan Buddhist monk, ordained by H. H. the
>> Dalai Lama, he went on to earn an undergraduate degree in physics and the
>> philosophy of science at Amherst College and a doctorate in religious
>> studies at Stanford.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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