Marsha said:
RELATIVITY:
the tallest dwarf
meeting the smallest giant
- same size



dmb says:

No, that's not what relativity means. Relativity means there is no standard by 
which to measure things like truth and moral values. 

What you have above is merely three sets of relations.

The dwarf is tallest in relation to other dwarves.
The giant is the smallest when compared to other giants.
In relation to each other, the dwarf and the giant are the same size. 

As a practical matter, these relations do not depend on one's perspective or 
worldview. It just depends on whether or not you can get all the dwarfs and 
giants to stand next to a measuring tape. That's how you know you've got the 
tallest dwarf in the first place. That's how you know all other giants are 
bigger. These are quantifiable facts and all three sets of relations are true 
at the same time without contradiction. The term "relative" can be used to mean 
"in relation to" or "by comparison with" but that doesn't have anything to do 
with the objectionable philosophical stance known as relativism. If we say the 
dwarf is relatively tall, we don't mean his height cannot be determined or that 
his height depends on one's understanding of the term "tall". 


Words and concepts are relational in a similar way. As I like to point out, the 
meaning of the terms "static" and "dynamic" is relational in the sense that 
"static" means the opposite of dynamic and "Dynamic" means the opposite of 
static. The meaning of each term is depends on not being the other, the same 
way hot and cold or short and tall define each other by opposition. Words also 
derive their meaning by virtue of their relation to context in which the term 
is being used. "Tall" can mean "highly exaggerated" when we're talking about 
tales, it can refer to the shape of a cocktail glass when talking to a 
bartender, it can mean "difficult" when we're talking about tall orders and 
tall obstacles. It can refer to a proud posture or walking style as well as 
actual height. Many words are very flexible and have many different meanings 
depending on the context but again this is to say that meaning is relational, 
not relative to the user. Words mean what they mean in relation to oth
 er words and in relation to the context in which it's being used. In other 
words, we can't isolate the meaning of a term because it derives it's meaning 
from the whole language system. This is the net of jewels idea applied to 
words. Similarly, some philosophers talk about our "web" of beliefs. This image 
get across the idea that some concepts are more central than others, which is 
probably true.


Compared to the top of Mount Everest and the tallest short guy, the Empire 
State Building is shorter and taller at the same time. These are not relative 
truths or opposed claims or two different views. It's merely two different 
comparisons, two different facts. The building is never going to be taller than 
the mountain and it'll never be shorter than any person, not even the tallest 
giant. I don't mean to be some kind of yard-stick fundamentalist. I'm just 
saying that relations are just as real as anything else and it's a part of what 
it means for something to be true and right. This could be called relationalism 
or relationism or wholism or contextualism or situationalism. But relativity or 
relativism is something else entirely. It's the philosophical equivalent of 
combining halitosis with leprosy. 


                                          
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