dmb to Marsha: Intellect is what you're using to ask the question. It's just the ability to skillfully handle concepts, abstractions, generalizations and the like. Intellectual patterns are the products of that skill.
Andre: What gets me every time I read Marsha's (apparently Buddhist inspired) retorts claiming 'ever changing amorphous, empty and relative' representations, is that all of a sudden 'intellect' falls outside of this category. It is 'fixed' and dominates all. The silliness of it is brilliant and stupid at the same time. Mr. Pirsig defined the intellectual level (of the MOQ!) as the skillful manipulation of... this means it is a level continually processing...it is processing incoming data through experiencing, as a continuous flux of impressions. That is its function. This data gets a 'place' assigned to it by the force of the analogues we have built up throughout the accumulation of such,... defining our lifetime and experiencing here. I have told Bodvar often and now say to Marsha and all who want to hear: if the function, ongoing processing of the intellectual level is reduced to mere SOM reifications then you do not know or realize shit from the MOQ...or from yourself as an experiencing pattern of values as far as I am concerned. Let me put it another way: the inorganic level is a "station" through which the organic level is made possible ( yes, by all means use a railway station). The organic level is a station through which the social level is made possible and the social station is the level through which the intellectual level is made possible. All levels are connected, all level communicate with each other. If level one (the inorganic) says to the rest:'No way fellas" then nothing will happen. If you are preparing for, and delivering you thesis and the second level says:'Man, you gotta pee or shit' this will sabotage all of your intellectual intentions!You will not be able to perform unless you attend to its requirements and needs. ( I am not sure how the social level will react to you if you deliver your thesis without any clothes on but I do know that it will detract the attention off what you try, intellectually, to present). All I am saying is that all is in a steady, static, stable flux. But for the adherents of the SOM/SOL shit to suggest that the intellectual level is a fixed, bolted, welded level, it sure as hell posits as discounting all Mr. Pirsig is standing for: Quality...because it is an event...it is pure experience. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
