Hello everyone On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:07 AM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote: > Ron: > >> concerning the ego climber, who is it that asserts the ego more? >> >> the one examing the self and defining it with their values or the one >> >> denying it exists? >> >> is not denial of self one of the most insidious acts of selfishness? > > Dan: > > Hi Ron > > I don't know for sure, but I would say that the selfless existence > doesn't mean denying the self so much as it means realizing the self > doesn't exist in light of the Buddha's teachings. > > Ron: > > Hey Dan, > > But I would argue that the Buddha is not teaching that the self > does not exist at all, it does exist, just not as an independant > seperate entity.
Dan: Then if you are right, perhaps you could point to the self. Where is it? > > The ego and the self do exist, but they exist as relationships. > > the self, our values, are the center of experience. > > I conclude, then that experience exists, therefore the self > > exists, therefore the understanding of experience plays > > an intrigal part in the quality of experience. > > The buddha promotes cleanliness of the body > > which relates to the cleanliness of environment > > which promotes cleanliness of the mind > > which promotes cleanliness of the body > > which promotes cleanliness of the mind > > which is cleanliness of the spirit > > this harmony of self extends to all experience > > this self pervades all > > for Quality is indeed reality > > -Ron > > really Dan: Perhaps. Still, what is a clean person? And why aren't all people clean? Do they not see the harmony? You say it pervades all. I don't understand. Thank you, Dan > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
