Mark to dmb: I have tried previously to provide a way out of SOM. The method is to try to identify the subjective itself, the true subjective.
Andre: The way out of SOM is to challenge and annihilate the assumptions upon which it is based. The MOQ has done this. It places Quality, experience, as the fundamental ingredient upon the building of an idea of reality and within this process all ideas of subject, object, subjectivism and objectivism are out the door. It shares this with Buddhism by claiming that these concepts are indeed 'empty' ( in MOQ terms 'figures of speech'), intellectual constructions necessary to maintain SOM. All is re-designated as patterns of value within the MOQ and this is a major step forward. Pirsig wrote eighty years after James, but reading James really gives you the foundations upon which Mr. Pirsig built his metaphysics. It really drives home the basics with which James was grappling and which resulted in his pragmatic and radical empiricist attitudes. ( as well as F.S.C Northrop of course). Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
