John C, Great post. Thanks.
Platt On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:35 PM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote: > Mark, > > I think you make a couple of important points: > > > > > [Mark] > > Intellect is a tough one, I would say that the discussion of intellectual > > ideas requires SOM. I believe this is Marsha's point. Symbol > manipulation > > requires symbols. > > > > > John: > > First, intellect IS a tough one. Unlike some people, who seem to expect > RMP's words to be some sort of holy writ that can't be challenged, I think > the fact that this one is a toughie, ought to encourage us to look at it > more deeply and examine it more thoroughly. Help him out, so to speak. > > Second, I agree with Arlo that SOM != Intellect. For one thing, it says > right on the label, "metaphysics" and obviously intellectuals create > metaphysical systems, but not all metaphysical systems are intellectual. > But I do also agree with "Bo's many" that Intellect is dependent upon SOM. > Unless you want to carve off the term "intellect" and turn it into some > private-language meaning that only a limited few comprehend, you have to > take the dictionary definition of intellect and that is heartless reason, > and admit that it comes directly from a worldview of analytical cogito-ers, > ergo-ily summing it all up in their heads. > > My particular point, furthermore, is that intellect cannot be the highest > aspiration of evolutionary development. The dictionary definition of > intellect, is non-artistic, for one thing. It refers to a specific branch > of human cognition that operates rationally by rules and analysis. Not at > all adequate for a label for the 4th level, imo. > > > peace, man, > > John > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
