[John] > the underlying matrix of understanding is formed by the common experience of a common environment.
"If language is to be a means of communication there must be agreement not only in definitions but also (queer as this may sound) in judgements." (Wittgenstein, Philosophical Investigations, 242.) http://people.su.se/~kgl/Wittgenstein%20and%20Davidson.pdf [Mark] > I think that there is fallacy in considering the societal level to be > the sum of individual levels. Very good. Otherwise, bee society would be on the MoQ 3rd level. [Mark} > As individuals we exist in the biological level (or organic, whatever). IMHO all 4 levels are integrated in a human individual. [Mark] > A collection of individuals synergistically form the societal level which > goes by its own > consciousness. This is similar to the cells making up our consciousness. > As such, we are speaking of group consciousness, not individual desires all > summed > up and fought over in a political way. Such values are not within the domain > of the > individual, although he does provide basis for them, in the same way our cells > provides the basis for our consciousness. IMHO this analogy obscures more than it enlightens. It would be like saying a lion moves thru the savanna just like a bishop moves around a chessboard. The kind of mistake the lion could make (e.g., falling in a tar pit or scaring off its prey) is of a different kind than a bishop could make (e.g., by moving off its diagonal). It is not clear how individual brain cells create consciousness (the "hard problem" of consciousness), but it isn't the way individuals create "group consciousness". Craig Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
