Marsha to Andre: Amorphous means to be without "definite" form.
Andre: Yeah, BECAUSE (from my Oxford dictionary): 'shapeless', 'vague', 'ill-organised'. In Pirsig's MOQ there is nothing 'definitive' Marsha, as you hopefully know. 'Definitive' meaning 'decisive', 'unconditional', 'final'. Is E=MC2, (an intellectual pattern of value) 'shapeless', 'vague', 'ill-organised' and therefore without definite form? The MOQ would simply say: E=MC2 is a scientific truth which is provisional. As Pirsig argues:'Science always contains an eraser, a mechanism whereby new Dynamic insight could wipe out old static patterns without destroying science itself. Thus science, unlike orthodox theology, has been capable of continuous, evolutionary growth. As Phaedrus had written on one of his slips, 'The pencil is mightier than the pen'. (LILA, p 226) This is a wonderful example of the distinction and interplay of DQ/sq. As mentioned in my post to Mary, to conflate them is to render both terms meaningless, and, by implication the MOQ as well. Is looks as though you still hang on to DQ is sq and sq is DQ. In trying to defend yourself you're playing with words again Marsha...but it is not a game anymore. As a contributor to this discuss about Pirsig's MOQ you are being dishonest. And if you are suggesting that the example used above is 'just my interpretation' then all further discussion is meaningless and useless. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
