Hi , Ron. Not really no,what Neo Darwinism unveiled is that in biological evolution there is no such thing as free will, probability , yes,but this was already known by Darwin himself. Free will is not to be found under a microscope,free will can only survive by the subjective judgement of the observer, what one will concider as free will, another person will call it a doctrine of nature.
Pirsig just assumed that normal persons would understand' intellectual,' without defining the word.They did not, and they don't. Free will is like Creativity, art,Quality, all infinite definable by words, but undefinable if we add "Time", proceeding time will make free will outrun its own defenitions=>dynamic Quality, Think of the implications of the link i showed to mark about Hawking's work on the arrows of time. An Example? Say a person in Amerika likes to meet up with a person living in Bora-Bora. They never heard of eachother, not they are aware of the location to meet.... What do they need to meet-up? the exact location,ie, longitude and lattitude,...and time, yes not only they need to know the location of the appointment, but also the hour of...meeting. Without this knowing of the hour, they will miss the appointment. So the free will to meet, depends on 4 variables/observables here. The so called free will to meet. longitude lattitude time. Free will , by choice of nature, is an illusion.(its only a macroscopical event) We can step outside and take an umbrella with us , if it is raining, by an act of free choice. We cannot step outside, and simply demand good weather, and make it happen by an act of Humanly induced free will. And btw, Ron, Darwin is never boring. ceeya. 2011/3/23 X Acto <[email protected]> > > > Adrie: > What the work is telling us,is that free will is not in conflict with the > metaphysiks of Quality > as long as it is not in coflict with the patterns of the bigger frame of > nature itself > > free will does not work on the patterns of evolution,science or nature. > > Ron: > "free will" is natural selection. Is'nt it?. > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > -- parser Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
