John:

Copleston Annotations, Dan.  The passage in question is one I refer to  as
the "this is the nonsense that inspired logical positivism" passage.  Goes
like this:

Copleston (quoting Coleridge):

'All knowledge rests on the coincidence of an object with a subject.' But
though subject and object are united in the act of knowledge, we can ask
which has the priority. Are we to start with the object and try to add to it
the subject? Or are we to start with the subject and try to find a passage
to the object? In other words, are we to take Nature as prior and try to add
to it thought or mind, or are we to take thought as prior and try to deduce
Nature? Coleridge answers that we can do neither the one nor the other. The
ultimate principle is to be sought in the identity of subject and object.

Pirsig:

This is strikingly similar to the MOQ.

Copleston:

Hi John and all'

I'm Joe.  I was pondering reproduction the other day from this musing: The
egg cell has all the advantages.  Before and after fertilization she remains
intact.  The sperm cell on the other hand is left in pieces.  Fortunately DQ
is undefined so what's left of the sperm cell are important pieces.

Joe 

On 3/22/11 5:40 PM, "John Carl" <[email protected]> wrote:

> John:
> 
> Copleston Annotations, Dan.  The passage in question is one I refer to  as
> the "this is the nonsense that inspired logical positivism" passage.  Goes
> like this:
> 
> Copleston (quoting Coleridge):
> 
> 'All knowledge rests on the coincidence of an object with a subject.' But
> though subject and object are united in the act of knowledge, we can ask
> which has the priority. Are we to start with the object and try to add to it
> the subject? Or are we to start with the subject and try to find a passage
> to the object? In other words, are we to take Nature as prior and try to add
> to it thought or mind, or are we to take thought as prior and try to deduce
> Nature? Coleridge answers that we can do neither the one nor the other. The
> ultimate principle is to be sought in the identity of subject and object.
> 
> Pirsig:
> 
> This is strikingly similar to the MOQ.
> 
> Copleston:


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