Hi Dan, Dave (and Mark)

Dan, disingenuous in the sense you claimed not to know "what" he was
talking about, whereas you were actually disagreeing with him (as I
do, as any MoQist would). Anyway, we got there in the end. I know
you've indulged Mark for a while.

Since Dave faced the implied "God" word head-on, I thought I might
comment on that.

It is easy (metaphorically / analogically as Dave says) to see the
godhead / buddha in the ineffable quality. The ineffability itself is
enough to draw the analogy. Pirsig does it all over the place.

But, substituting the word "God" for quality or vice-versa is one
thing, so long as were clear it is actually the quality we're talking
about. Seeing the grey-bearded, omniscient, omnipotent, intentional
being of mono-theistic religions in the word is quite another.To avoid
confusion we (obviously) avoid or take great care using the word in
the MoQ context.
(Just another example of broad vs narrow definition issues really -
which I think Dave also said).

Mark the question is still where are you going with your thinking.
(But don't fall into the trap of falsely claiming where you're going
is what Pirsig was thinking. Although Dan considers me "polite" you'll
find I don't have nearly as much patience as Dan.)

Ian
PS - What's so funny 'bout ...
Peace, love and understanding ?
Where are the strong, and
Who are the trusted ?

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Dan Glover <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello everyone
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Ian Glendinning
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Mark, Dan,
>>
>> (Between a rock and a hard place again ?)
>> Dan, I think you're being disingenuous in not understanding Mark's words.
>
> Hi Ian
>
> I don't know. You say I am being disingenuous but then you basically
> agree with me, albeit in a more polite manner. So are you being
> disingenous too?
>
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