Hi Ian, On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:11 AM, Ian Glendinning <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Dan, Dave (and Mark) > > Dan, disingenuous in the sense you claimed not to know "what" he was > talking about, whereas you were actually disagreeing with him (as I > do, as any MoQist would). Anyway, we got there in the end. I know > you've indulged Mark for a while. > > Since Dave faced the implied "God" word head-on, I thought I might > comment on that. > > It is easy (metaphorically / analogically as Dave says) to see the > godhead / buddha in the ineffable quality. The ineffability itself is > enough to draw the analogy. Pirsig does it all over the place. > > But, substituting the word "God" for quality or vice-versa is one > thing, so long as were clear it is actually the quality we're talking > about. Seeing the grey-bearded, omniscient, omnipotent, intentional > being of mono-theistic religions in the word is quite another.To avoid > confusion we (obviously) avoid or take great care using the word in > the MoQ context. > (Just another example of broad vs narrow definition issues really - > which I think Dave also said). > > Mark the question is still where are you going with your thinking. > (But don't fall into the trap of falsely claiming where you're going > is what Pirsig was thinking. Although Dan considers me "polite" you'll > find I don't have nearly as much patience as Dan.) > [Mark] Where I am going is the same place I have been going for a while. My many posts should have given you a clue. It is my desire to make MoQ more accessible to the public. With that intent, I bring in analogies from many different disciplines. If there is a tendency towards religion in this world of ours, as it seems that there is, what a great opportunity! I am certainly not promoting any religion with that, just providing a bridge. As I told Dave, I can drop the word God, it is all the same to me. I can refer to it as Quality. Perhaps that will make things more copacetic.
I don't mind the impatient, although it does tend to cloud judgement. I have no dogma which I am attached to, and can change my direction at any time, depending on where Quality takes me. So, as I have said previously, I have no personal investment here that you need to worry about hurting. If anything, I am trying to spread the Word. (Oops, was that a no-no too?). Cheers, Mark ,> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
