Thx , Andre, love you all the way dude. Good,Good Good!!!! shit , why i'm not a better writer.I would give my both right arms to be able to write like Robert.see how concluding he formulates, his style is extremely condensed, arguments made from granite. thanks , Andre.
2011/3/24 Andre Broersen <[email protected]> > Andre: > > 'If preference and determinism are on the same continuum. this implies that > freedom is also on a continuum from little (or none) at the inorganic static > quality level (e.g. I have minimal or no control over the strength of > gravity in the universe; it is largely determined), to some freedom at the > biological (e.g. I must eat to survive but have control of the nutrition > ingested and of meal times), considerable freedom at the social (e.g. choice > of clothes, if any), nearly complete choice at the intellectual (e.g. what I > believe to be true) and to complete freedom at the Dynamic 'Code of Art' > level (where I place my first brush stroke, if any, on the canvas)... . As > such it's apparent that this 'value' continuum (of freedom) stretches > between largely determined sub-atomic particles to complete artistic > freedom. This is important (metaphysically) as this continuum facilitates, > in a largely deterministic physical world, a notion of moral responsibility > and considerable intellectual freedom for an individual regarding aesthetic > decisions. > > And Anthony quotes Pirsig on the same page: > 'The MOQ puts an end to this ancient freewill vs. determinism controversy > by showing that both preference and probability are subsets of value. As the > distinction between subject and object becomes relatively unimportant in the > MOQ, so does the distinction between probability and preference. There is no > basic difference between mind and matter with regard to free will, only a > difference in degree of freedom'(Pirsig, 1997c) In Anthony's PhD, p 137. > > And if Quality means freedom, and freedom is what one is after then free > yourself from static patterns 'by putting them to sleep. That is, you master > them with such proficiency that they become an unconscious part of your > nature. You get so used to them you completely forget them and they are > gone. There in the center of the most monotonous boredom of static > ritualistic patterns the Dynamic freedom is found'(LILA, p 393) > > 'The physical order of the universe is also the moral order of the > universe. Rta is both (i.e. the 'cosmic order' and 'moral order).This was > exactly what the Metaphysics of Quality was claiming. It was not new a idea. > It was the oldest idea known to man.(LILA, p,390) > > 'Rta,'Hiriyama has written, 'almost ceased to be used in Sanskrit; > but...under the name of dharma the same idea occupies a very important place > in the later Indian views of life also'...'Dharma, like rta, means 'what > holds together,'. It is the basis of all order. It equals righteousness. It > is the ethical code. It is the stable condition which gives man perfect > satisfaction'. > > Dharma is duty. It is not external duty which is arbitrality imposed by > others. It is not any artificial set of conventions which can be amended or > repealed by legislation. Neither is it internal duty which is arbitrality > decided by one's own conscience. Dharma is beyond all questions of what is > internal and what is external. Dharma is Quality itself, the principle of > 'rightness'which gives structure and purpose to the evolution of life and to > the evolving understanding of the universe which life has created'.(LILA,p > 392) > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > -- parser Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
