Andre,

Have I defined DQ?  Where?   


Marsha 


On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Andre Broersen wrote:

> Marsha to dmb:
> 
> A major premise of the MoQ is Quality(Dynamic Quality/static quality), how 
> can you really separate it in any meaningful way?  Do you?  If we check back 
> through your posts, do discover you have never addressed Dynamic Quality?
> 
> Andre:
> It seems to me that it is time you re-read LILA again Marsha. Starting, 
> preferably at the beginning but with regard to your response, Chapter 9 will 
> do as well. There you will read all about reasons for NOT addressing Quality.
> 
> Also: "Whenever one talks about Dynamic Quality someone else can take 
> whatever is said and make a static pattern out of it and the dialectically 
> oppose that pattern".( Anthony's PhD, p68)
> 
> Also: In the MOQ, then, reality (as a whole) is denoted by the term 'Quality' 
> which Pirsig divides into Dynamic Quality and static quality. 'Quality' (with 
> a capital 'Q')is used to denote reality (by which Pirsig regards as the 
> totality of what exists) in addition to its traditional context as a term for 
> excellence... while Dynamic Quality denotes the unconceptualised part of 
> reality. Consequently, the term 'Dynamic Quality' is not meant to be a 
> concept but only a referring term:
> 
> It's important to keep all 'concepts' out of Dynamic Quality. Concepts are 
> always static. Once they get into Dynamic Quality they'll overrun it and try 
> to present it as some kind of concept itself. (Pirsig, 1997e).(ibid, p35)
> 
> 'Anything that is undefined is outside metaphysics, since metaphysics can 
> only function with defined terms.'(LILA, p110)
> 
> Quality is the pre-intellectual cutting edge... . Not this, not that, not 
> anything.
> 
> And you want dmb to address Dynamic Quality? What is there to say? So that 
> you, Marsh, can turn it into one of your many warped intellectual chess 
> pieces?
> 
> Read ZMM!
> 
> And, just for the record, dmb has said many things about DQ and Mysticism. 
> You need to take a better look at the archives. Some of his posts on DQ stem 
> from 1998 and carry on in 2002,3,and 4.
> 
> Seems like you need to do put your eyes through some exercises and shut your 
> mouth.
> 
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